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		<title>By: rebel</title>
		<link>http://contrariancommentary.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/hawaii-supreme-court-petition/#comment-4551</link>
		<dc:creator>rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andy, I hope you succeed in revealing Obama&#039;s birth crtificate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andy, I hope you succeed in revealing Obama&#8217;s birth crtificate.</p>
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		<title>By: PRO</title>
		<link>http://contrariancommentary.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/hawaii-supreme-court-petition/#comment-4181</link>
		<dc:creator>PRO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transparency, people!  Why can&#039;t Obama be transparent in ANY of his deals?  Why is America so indifferent?  Is this the type of President we want or deserve?  There are SO many issues with inconsistencies in most of his dealings, from his very beginnings in life, with unconventional situations with his estranged parents and step-father, to questionable people he associated with, with people who helped him get into government, and in the way he made his money, or the record-breaking millions and millions of dollars “collected” and spent in campaigning, etc., etc.  

Nothing is clear; not much is known about him or even sounds logical or believable.  We only know the story we are told.  Not even a Hollywood movie could be more fantastic.  Wasn&#039;t he so proud when he stated that he became a community organizer rather than start a regular pay job as an attorney after graduating from… Harvard!?!  He did graduate, didn&#039;t he?  (Another mystery?)  What serious attorney turns down an opportunity to work in the profession he/she chose after the long wait and sacrifice of studying for it?  NOBODY!  Especially, as Michelle Obama said in her Democratic convention speech: he turned down, actually turned down Wall Street law firms.  He should have known you can do far more good in choosing voluntary work WHILE working in these companies and perhaps get yours involved in your &quot;cause,&quot; than simply going full-time as a &quot;community organizer.&quot; Who is he kidding?  Apparently everybody!  

I&#039;d like to know how he made his money so fast and did it during the &quot;Bush-era,&quot; which he calls the worst in American history (or recent history).  Bush was NOT too bad for him, wasn&#039;t it?  He should be grateful to Bush: Obama became a MILLIONAIRE in this same period of time he so bitterly condemns.  And what could be more appalling?  At a time of such dire economical situation in America, he spends immoral amounts of money to shove himself down our throats!  You cannot turn on the radio, or TV, or access any Internet website without being constantly bombarded with very expensive ads for Obama.  But NOBODY questions that.  No media pundit exposes this fact nor demands an explanation of why so much money, otherwise so desperately needed for charity, be spent just to showcase the Obama idol.  Makes you wonder, ha?  Well, only straight-thinkers would question the above.  I am one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transparency, people!  Why can&#8217;t Obama be transparent in ANY of his deals?  Why is America so indifferent?  Is this the type of President we want or deserve?  There are SO many issues with inconsistencies in most of his dealings, from his very beginnings in life, with unconventional situations with his estranged parents and step-father, to questionable people he associated with, with people who helped him get into government, and in the way he made his money, or the record-breaking millions and millions of dollars “collected” and spent in campaigning, etc., etc.  </p>
<p>Nothing is clear; not much is known about him or even sounds logical or believable.  We only know the story we are told.  Not even a Hollywood movie could be more fantastic.  Wasn&#8217;t he so proud when he stated that he became a community organizer rather than start a regular pay job as an attorney after graduating from… Harvard!?!  He did graduate, didn&#8217;t he?  (Another mystery?)  What serious attorney turns down an opportunity to work in the profession he/she chose after the long wait and sacrifice of studying for it?  NOBODY!  Especially, as Michelle Obama said in her Democratic convention speech: he turned down, actually turned down Wall Street law firms.  He should have known you can do far more good in choosing voluntary work WHILE working in these companies and perhaps get yours involved in your &#8220;cause,&#8221; than simply going full-time as a &#8220;community organizer.&#8221; Who is he kidding?  Apparently everybody!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know how he made his money so fast and did it during the &#8220;Bush-era,&#8221; which he calls the worst in American history (or recent history).  Bush was NOT too bad for him, wasn&#8217;t it?  He should be grateful to Bush: Obama became a MILLIONAIRE in this same period of time he so bitterly condemns.  And what could be more appalling?  At a time of such dire economical situation in America, he spends immoral amounts of money to shove himself down our throats!  You cannot turn on the radio, or TV, or access any Internet website without being constantly bombarded with very expensive ads for Obama.  But NOBODY questions that.  No media pundit exposes this fact nor demands an explanation of why so much money, otherwise so desperately needed for charity, be spent just to showcase the Obama idol.  Makes you wonder, ha?  Well, only straight-thinkers would question the above.  I am one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Atila</title>
		<link>http://contrariancommentary.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/hawaii-supreme-court-petition/#comment-4037</link>
		<dc:creator>Atila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Standing?  I would think that any American recognizing or capbale of proving a violation of our contitutional law should have standing.  I understand Obama&#039;s desire to escape using a technical legal move like standing, but if it succeeds, how pathetic will he look?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standing?  I would think that any American recognizing or capbale of proving a violation of our contitutional law should have standing.  I understand Obama&#8217;s desire to escape using a technical legal move like standing, but if it succeeds, how pathetic will he look?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Cheeseburger 9000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Cheeseburger 9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you even have standing for this?</description>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://contrariancommentary.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/hawaii-supreme-court-petition/#comment-4008</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is SO interesting. If he&#039;s a &quot;naturalized citizen&quot; as would appear to be the case, he can NOT become our president...otherwise, Arnold could run and he can&#039;t!! I agree about the Indonesian citizenship. IF he was issued an Indonesian passport, he must have been a citizen and he must have used his adopted name of Barry Soetoro. I can only conclude that when he &quot;decided&quot; to be an American citizen, he just went back to &quot;using&quot; hi Obama name. There MUST be some record of the request for a name change! When my sons decided to take their step-fathers last name, we had to publish the request in the paper for at least 3 submissions. We had to provide their original birth certificate and then we had to get them changed to show the &quot;new&quot; name. They now say that they were corrected. As far as I know...all records are PUBLIC and you can&#039;t just &quot;decide&quot; not to let them out. I think it was called the privacy act or something like that? If he&#039;s on the up &amp; up...why not just release the documents and get it over with. I can only conclude he&#039;s covering up the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is SO interesting. If he&#8217;s a &#8220;naturalized citizen&#8221; as would appear to be the case, he can NOT become our president&#8230;otherwise, Arnold could run and he can&#8217;t!! I agree about the Indonesian citizenship. IF he was issued an Indonesian passport, he must have been a citizen and he must have used his adopted name of Barry Soetoro. I can only conclude that when he &#8220;decided&#8221; to be an American citizen, he just went back to &#8220;using&#8221; hi Obama name. There MUST be some record of the request for a name change! When my sons decided to take their step-fathers last name, we had to publish the request in the paper for at least 3 submissions. We had to provide their original birth certificate and then we had to get them changed to show the &#8220;new&#8221; name. They now say that they were corrected. As far as I know&#8230;all records are PUBLIC and you can&#8217;t just &#8220;decide&#8221; not to let them out. I think it was called the privacy act or something like that? If he&#8217;s on the up &amp; up&#8230;why not just release the documents and get it over with. I can only conclude he&#8217;s covering up the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn</title>
		<link>http://contrariancommentary.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/hawaii-supreme-court-petition/#comment-3989</link>
		<dc:creator>Robyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LDR, not all District Courts participate in the national online public access services.

http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/psco/cgi-bin/miss-court.pl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LDR, not all District Courts participate in the national online public access services.</p>
<p><a href="http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/psco/cgi-bin/miss-court.pl" rel="nofollow">http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/psco/cgi-bin/miss-court.pl</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carole Dillon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole Dillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His Indonesian passport is of interest.  Once you obtain a passport from your country-is there any circumstance under which you can void that passport and get another passport from another country?  A friend of mine had a passport from Yugoslavia/Slovakia (now), and desired a U.S. passport because he is a legalized citizen of the U.S.  He was refused.  If you are unable to void one passport and be granted a passport from another country, then it would be clear his citizenship is in Indonesia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His Indonesian passport is of interest.  Once you obtain a passport from your country-is there any circumstance under which you can void that passport and get another passport from another country?  A friend of mine had a passport from Yugoslavia/Slovakia (now), and desired a U.S. passport because he is a legalized citizen of the U.S.  He was refused.  If you are unable to void one passport and be granted a passport from another country, then it would be clear his citizenship is in Indonesia.</p>
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		<title>By: LDR</title>
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		<dc:creator>LDR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a bunch of bull the docket does not exist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bunch of bull the docket does not exist!</p>
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		<title>By: Auntie Coosa</title>
		<link>http://contrariancommentary.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/hawaii-supreme-court-petition/#comment-3397</link>
		<dc:creator>Auntie Coosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1961 to be a Natural Born US Citizen, the law read that a person born to a mother who had not been living in the USofA for 4 years after her 16th birthday WAS NOT CONSIDERED A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.  Obama&#039;s mother was 18 when he was born.  So he might be a US Citizen but not Natural Born, if he was born in Hawaii.  If he was born in Kenya, his COLB would have to state that.  He might then have dual citizenship. 

HOWEVER it has been documented by others that to attend school in Jakarta, Indonesia, a child had to be an Indonesian citizen, and since it has been documented elsewhere that Lolo Soetoro adopted Barry Dunham and that Barry Dunham Soetoro attended schools in Jakarta, his Hawaiian COLB or Birth Certificate would be SEALED due to the adoption.  IF Barry Soetoro was a dual citizen of the USofA, he LOST US Citizenship 1- when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and 2- when he used his Indonesian Birth Certificate in 1981 to go to Pakistan, a Country under Martial Law where it was forbidden for US Citizens to enter.  In 1981, Barry Soetoro was considered an ADULT and he chose his Indonesian citizenship over his US citizenship by obtaining the Passport from Indonesia.  Where is that Passport and which name was used?  He would have had to produce a Birth Certificate and would have had to use a non-US birth certificate to get a Passport from a Country which allowed travel to Pakistan in 1981.  It can be surmised that the name on the Passport was taken from the non-US birth certificate and that the name used was Barry Soetoro.

The US Constitutional Law from 1961 is important.  Besides that, there is the Passport to travel to Indonesia and Pakistan used in 1981 and it was NOT a US Passport.

John McCain was born to TWO US Citizens on a Naval Base in Panama when Panama was under the control of the USofA . . .  not the same situation.

So it really doesn&#039;t matter about his being born in Kenya as his Kenyan Grandmother and other relative have stated.  Barry Obama&#039;s Indonesian Birth Certificate and Passport verify his citizenship status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1961 to be a Natural Born US Citizen, the law read that a person born to a mother who had not been living in the USofA for 4 years after her 16th birthday WAS NOT CONSIDERED A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.  Obama&#8217;s mother was 18 when he was born.  So he might be a US Citizen but not Natural Born, if he was born in Hawaii.  If he was born in Kenya, his COLB would have to state that.  He might then have dual citizenship. </p>
<p>HOWEVER it has been documented by others that to attend school in Jakarta, Indonesia, a child had to be an Indonesian citizen, and since it has been documented elsewhere that Lolo Soetoro adopted Barry Dunham and that Barry Dunham Soetoro attended schools in Jakarta, his Hawaiian COLB or Birth Certificate would be SEALED due to the adoption.  IF Barry Soetoro was a dual citizen of the USofA, he LOST US Citizenship 1- when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and 2- when he used his Indonesian Birth Certificate in 1981 to go to Pakistan, a Country under Martial Law where it was forbidden for US Citizens to enter.  In 1981, Barry Soetoro was considered an ADULT and he chose his Indonesian citizenship over his US citizenship by obtaining the Passport from Indonesia.  Where is that Passport and which name was used?  He would have had to produce a Birth Certificate and would have had to use a non-US birth certificate to get a Passport from a Country which allowed travel to Pakistan in 1981.  It can be surmised that the name on the Passport was taken from the non-US birth certificate and that the name used was Barry Soetoro.</p>
<p>The US Constitutional Law from 1961 is important.  Besides that, there is the Passport to travel to Indonesia and Pakistan used in 1981 and it was NOT a US Passport.</p>
<p>John McCain was born to TWO US Citizens on a Naval Base in Panama when Panama was under the control of the USofA . . .  not the same situation.</p>
<p>So it really doesn&#8217;t matter about his being born in Kenya as his Kenyan Grandmother and other relative have stated.  Barry Obama&#8217;s Indonesian Birth Certificate and Passport verify his citizenship status.</p>
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		<title>By: TMGF</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMGF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would highly suggest that people read the 14th amendment for themselves to see who qualifies as a &quot;native-born American.&quot;

Here&#039;s a link: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html

I&#039;ll quote the pertinent part:

&quot;(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person.&quot;

His mother was an American...that makes him a native-born American.

BTW...John McCain was born in Panama, wasn&#039;t he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would highly suggest that people read the 14th amendment for themselves to see who qualifies as a &#8220;native-born American.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link: <a href="http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html" rel="nofollow">http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401&#8212;-000-.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll quote the pertinent part:</p>
<p>&#8220;(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person.&#8221;</p>
<p>His mother was an American&#8230;that makes him a native-born American.</p>
<p>BTW&#8230;John McCain was born in Panama, wasn&#8217;t he?</p>
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